{"id":3887,"date":"2018-11-30T03:14:50","date_gmt":"2018-11-30T03:14:50","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/erictrules.com\/?p=3887"},"modified":"2018-11-29T17:14:08","modified_gmt":"2018-11-29T17:14:08","slug":"bonus-interview-with-outlier-matt-dartnell-episode-43","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/erictrules.com\/bonus-interview-with-outlier-matt-dartnell-episode-43\/","title":{"rendered":"Bonus: Interview with Outlier, Matt Dartnell \u2013 Episode 43"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><strong><div class=\"reviews_view\"><ul class=\"reviews_view\" style=\"slideshow\" current=\"0\"><li style=\"list-style:none !important\"><strong>Brilliant!<\/strong><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/erictrules.com\/wp-content\/plugins\/simple-podcast-press\/icons\/rating_stars\/5star.png\"><div>December 15, 2018 by <b>thebigtravelpodcast<\/b> from United Kingdom<\/div><p>I'm a fellow travel podcaster and journalist (The Big Travel Podcast) and came across this podcast when reviewing other travel podcasts for an article I'm writing. Eric has such a lovely way of telling a story and a brilliant voice. Love it.<\/p><\/li><li style=\"list-style:none !important\"><strong>Amazing travel podcast!<\/strong><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/erictrules.com\/wp-content\/plugins\/simple-podcast-press\/icons\/rating_stars\/5star.png\"><div>September 26, 2018 by <b>Great Historic Show!<\/b> from United States<\/div><p>This is exactly what I've been looking for and sounds amazing. Can't stress how great this show sounds enough. Great show + great host = Home Run Podcast. Subscribed!<\/p><\/li><li style=\"list-style:none !important\"><strong>Chuck Jonkey<\/strong><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/erictrules.com\/wp-content\/plugins\/simple-podcast-press\/icons\/rating_stars\/5star.png\"><div>May 21, 2018 by <b>susanshane<\/b> from United States<\/div><p>Fascinating! Love indigenous music and listening to Chuck\u2019s vivid descriptions were as close to being there as possible. I am so intrigued with these off the beaten path places and this podcast offers a glimpse into realities otherwise unknown. He really captures the \u201cspirit\u201d and Eric, your podcast connects us to that world. Wonderful!<\/p><\/li><li style=\"list-style:none !important\"><strong>Mark Eagle<\/strong><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/erictrules.com\/wp-content\/plugins\/simple-podcast-press\/icons\/rating_stars\/5star.png\"><div>February 4, 2018 by <b>Tallmarkone<\/b> from United States<\/div><p>e-travels with e. trules is a very informative and entertaining podcast about Mr. Trules travels across our planet over the past many years. But it's more than just that. It's also about his life beginning in New York and how he created a life for himself, his wife and now their adopted son in the Echo Park section of Los Angeles. \n\nWhat's especially enjoyable about his accounts of his life is not just what's going on in the present but also the historical knowledge he imparts with a sense of humor. \n\nHe probably remembers Gene Shepard from many many years ago on WOR A.M. Radio in New York City and I as a young child back then would listen to him on the equivalent of podcasts back then. Younger people may recall the movie \"A Christmas Story\" and the famous saying about not getting a Bebe gun because he will shoot his eye out. Well that was written by and voice overhead by Gene Shepard. \n\nMr. Trules has a similar ability to tell a good story and to do so in such a way as to bring you right there. \n\nI only recently discovered podcasts and this has got to be one of the best ones out there!<\/p><\/li><li style=\"list-style:none !important\"><strong>Great show, if you love travel, you will love this<\/strong><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/erictrules.com\/wp-content\/plugins\/simple-podcast-press\/icons\/rating_stars\/5star.png\"><div>July 5, 2017 by <b>Young free and coupled<\/b> from United Kingdom<\/div><p>Well worth a sub, DO IT NOW, i did!<\/p><\/li><li style=\"list-style:none !important\"><strong>A mind-expanding guide of the world<\/strong><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/erictrules.com\/wp-content\/plugins\/simple-podcast-press\/icons\/rating_stars\/5star.png\"><div>June 30, 2017 by <b>Keltonboy1755<\/b> from United States<\/div><p>Listen to this podcast and the man who makes it. He will rekindle your desire for adventure, knowledge, and just maybe teach you how to catch a ride on the train of opportunity.<\/p><\/li><li style=\"list-style:none !important\"><strong>A truly unique travel podcast<\/strong><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/erictrules.com\/wp-content\/plugins\/simple-podcast-press\/icons\/rating_stars\/5star.png\"><div>May 27, 2017 by <b>fevkalade11<\/b> from United States<\/div><p>I love travel and foreign cultures, and it was great to find a podcast that adds an entertaining, offbeat angle to a genre that can quickly become stale. Highly recommended.<\/p><\/li><li style=\"list-style:none !important\"><strong>Amazing!<\/strong><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/erictrules.com\/wp-content\/plugins\/simple-podcast-press\/icons\/rating_stars\/5star.png\"><div>May 9, 2017 by <b>Karileed<\/b> from United States<\/div><p>If you love travel you will certainly love this podcast! Eric is an amazing story teller and he will transport you to another world every time. I definitely recommend this podcast to all travel lovers.<\/p><\/li><li style=\"list-style:none !important\"><strong>Impressive and addicting!<\/strong><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/erictrules.com\/wp-content\/plugins\/simple-podcast-press\/icons\/rating_stars\/5star.png\"><div>February 14, 2017 by <b>JenniferRendel12<\/b> from United States<\/div><p>This podcast transports me evey episode to a entertaining adventure that lets me leave my current reality and allows me to see this crazy world as told by the euthusiastic, talented, and engaging storyteller, Eric Trules. I find his travel stories enlightening and very relaxing to sit back and listen to. Besides Trules mastery of telling his stories, the podcast is well-produced with excellent audio and sounds that help in making this such an addictive listen. Can't wait for more!<\/p><\/li><li style=\"list-style:none !important\"><strong>Love and the Devil's Nose<\/strong><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/erictrules.com\/wp-content\/plugins\/simple-podcast-press\/icons\/rating_stars\/5star.png\"><div>February 10, 2017 by <b>Angelesgirl<\/b> from United States<\/div><p>This was a delightful and entertaining narrative. I tuned in thinking it was a podcast about one of Eric's wild travels only to find out that this was a piece about marriage, and a damned good one at that.<\/p><\/li><li style=\"list-style:none !important\"><strong>Crafted with a love of travel<\/strong><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/erictrules.com\/wp-content\/plugins\/simple-podcast-press\/icons\/rating_stars\/5star.png\"><div>February 6, 2017 by <b>jinki1<\/b> from United States<\/div><p>Love the story telling aspect of the early episodes: the score, the performance. It's really engaging. As a podcaster, I love the behind the scenes episodes as well. Looking forward to where this show will go!<\/p><\/li><li style=\"list-style:none !important\"><strong>An auditory treat<\/strong><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/erictrules.com\/wp-content\/plugins\/simple-podcast-press\/icons\/rating_stars\/5star.png\"><div>January 30, 2017 by <b>phillytonicaragua<\/b> from United States<\/div><p>Trules' voice and the sound design make E-travels with E-trules a lovely soundtrack when working. His stories will transport you to another world while you tap away at your cubicle. I hope he post more and more often! Highly recommend.<\/p><\/li><li style=\"list-style:none !important\"><strong>Truley Great<\/strong><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/erictrules.com\/wp-content\/plugins\/simple-podcast-press\/icons\/rating_stars\/5star.png\"><div>January 19, 2017 by <b>Rain17<\/b> from United States<\/div><p>Love the interplay between discovering new places in the world that are ancient and making new personal discoveries. Yes, he's crazy to be taking some of these trips, but what else is new? He's being truly Trules. His inner clown is always smiling.\nThanks a bunch.\nMark Berger and Rain Worthington<\/p><\/li><li style=\"list-style:none !important\"><strong>An aural E-venture<\/strong><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/erictrules.com\/wp-content\/plugins\/simple-podcast-press\/icons\/rating_stars\/5star.png\"><div>January 8, 2017 by <b>Soulfulwon<\/b> from United States<\/div><p>A great listen. Transported me. Looking forward to more!<\/p><\/li><li style=\"list-style:none !important\"><strong>This show rocks!<\/strong><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/erictrules.com\/wp-content\/plugins\/simple-podcast-press\/icons\/rating_stars\/5star.png\"><div>January 2, 2017 by <b>craigcbrown<\/b> from United States<\/div><p>I love it! 5+<\/p><\/li><li style=\"list-style:none !important\"><strong>The Voice<\/strong><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/erictrules.com\/wp-content\/plugins\/simple-podcast-press\/icons\/rating_stars\/5star.png\"><div>December 20, 2016 by <b>TravelwithGrace<\/b> from United Kingdom<\/div><p>I was lucky enough to be in Echo Park, Los Angeles this November and heard some of Eric's podcasts before they were even available on itunes. He has the perfect pitch and tone of the seasoned traveller and raconteur, I slipped comfortably away and was lost in distant lands and times.<\/p><\/li><li style=\"list-style:none !important\"><strong>Storytelling at its finest<\/strong><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/erictrules.com\/wp-content\/plugins\/simple-podcast-press\/icons\/rating_stars\/5star.png\"><div>December 20, 2016 by <b>i save a lot<\/b> from United States<\/div><p>A real treat to hear Eric's voice among hoards of podcasts out there. His point-of-view, cadence, and energy makes for trascendent listening. LOVE it!<\/p><\/li><li style=\"list-style:none !important\"><strong>Got Me Yearning to Backpack Again<\/strong><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/erictrules.com\/wp-content\/plugins\/simple-podcast-press\/icons\/rating_stars\/5star.png\"><div>December 15, 2016 by <b>Speaking247<\/b> from United States<\/div><p>Trules has such a great radio voice. Truly enjoyed the podcast, as it got me yearning to backpack again. Really high-quality production, with great music (and I dig the whistling at the end).<\/p><\/li><li style=\"list-style:none !important\"><strong>Wonderful storytelling from an incredible, iconoclastic, ramblin professor.<\/strong><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/erictrules.com\/wp-content\/plugins\/simple-podcast-press\/icons\/rating_stars\/5star.png\"><div>December 12, 2016 by <b>Trevor M Davis<\/b> from United States<\/div><p>Eric Trules is a natural born storyteller. He also happens to be an ever-searching, wonderfully curious, thoughtful and profound individual, with a unique perspective on the wide world -- a world which he's circumnavigated far more than I could even imagine. Though, after listening to his podcast, it's inspiring me to attempt to catch up someday and ramp up the timeline on my exploration of this mysterious, beautiful world.\n\nAs much as the travel adventures are wonderful to hear on their own though, the real treasure here comes in his thoughtful reflection on humanity in its many garments and idiosyncracies. He certainly could have been a cultural anthropologist if he didn't become a theatre professor...but I'm glad he went toward the stage; now we get the benefits of his runminations on humanity through the vessel of a uniquely gifted, entertaining storyteller.\n\nI've seen him perform many times, but this podcast is a great reminder of how much character and warmth his voice carries with every phrase as a trained performer. Trules is a cultural treasure, and I can't wait to hear more installments of this powerful travelogue.<\/p><\/li><li style=\"list-style:none !important\"><strong>Tules trancends travel triumphantly<\/strong><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/erictrules.com\/wp-content\/plugins\/simple-podcast-press\/icons\/rating_stars\/5star.png\"><div>December 12, 2016 by <b>gijjiu<\/b> from United States<\/div><p>The podcast is a delightful medley of travel, history, and Trules! His voice over the music and sound makes it easy to picture the fantastic stories.<\/p><\/li><li style=\"list-style:none !important\"><strong>Deeply Immersing<\/strong><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/erictrules.com\/wp-content\/plugins\/simple-podcast-press\/icons\/rating_stars\/5star.png\"><div>December 9, 2016 by <b>Billyhc<\/b> from United States<\/div><p>The storytelling is as hypnotic as the music.<\/p><\/li><li style=\"list-style:none !important\"><strong>If you love traveling, this is your jam!<\/strong><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/erictrules.com\/wp-content\/plugins\/simple-podcast-press\/icons\/rating_stars\/5star.png\"><div>December 6, 2016 by <b>MMMMM12345MMMMM<\/b> from United States<\/div><p>For those who love traveling but don't get to do so as often as you wish, this is the go-to podcast!<\/p><\/li><li style=\"list-style:none !important\"><strong>Great Podcast!<\/strong><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/erictrules.com\/wp-content\/plugins\/simple-podcast-press\/icons\/rating_stars\/5star.png\"><div>December 5, 2016 by <b>SirScottMullin<\/b> from United States<\/div><p>Eric creates a sense of place like no one else. I felt like I was right there alongside him on all these amazing journeys. What an experience!<\/p><\/li><li style=\"list-style:none !important\"><strong>Love it<\/strong><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/erictrules.com\/wp-content\/plugins\/simple-podcast-press\/icons\/rating_stars\/5star.png\"><div>December 5, 2016 by <b>PouxDawg<\/b> from United States<\/div><p>Love, love, LOVE this! Inspires me to keep exploring the world with our new little family addition. Great first episode.<\/p><\/li><li style=\"list-style:none !important\"><strong>Emerging show!<\/strong><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/erictrules.com\/wp-content\/plugins\/simple-podcast-press\/icons\/rating_stars\/5star.png\"><div>December 5, 2016 by <b>SF1994yes<\/b> from United States<\/div><p>Trules has a natural knack for storytelling, and exploration. Looking forward to the new show!<\/p><\/li><li style=\"list-style:none !important\"><strong>Well-produced, personal insights about the world<\/strong><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/erictrules.com\/wp-content\/plugins\/simple-podcast-press\/icons\/rating_stars\/5star.png\"><div>December 2, 2016 by <b>S. Wedeking<\/b> from United States<\/div><p>The widely traveled Trules is also a gifted writer, performer and teacher \u2014 and this podcast benefits from all those talents<\/p><\/li><li style=\"list-style:none !important\"><strong>He tells it \"Trully...\"<\/strong><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/erictrules.com\/wp-content\/plugins\/simple-podcast-press\/icons\/rating_stars\/5star.png\"><div>December 2, 2016 by <b>MoondogMulv<\/b> from United States<\/div><p>Trulles is a unique, funny, and intelligent guide in the world of travel, life, and love.<\/p><\/li><li style=\"list-style:none !important\"><strong>Rich and Textured Storytelling<\/strong><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/erictrules.com\/wp-content\/plugins\/simple-podcast-press\/icons\/rating_stars\/5star.png\"><div>December 1, 2016 by <b>Irma Gerd<\/b> from United States<\/div><p>Between the music, sound design, and pleasant low rumble of Trules' voice, this is a podcast that will satisfy that craving for a story that lets you live by your mind's eye. In the introduction of the podcast, Trules begins laying down the different stories and inspirations that he has quilted together over his life. From his natural curiosity in history to his appreciation for the unforeseen, you get the sense that Trules has a narrative that bridges his personal discoveries with the shifts the world has undergone throughout his life. \nI'm looking forward to seeing how these stories flesh out. I can tell that we're in for a treat.<\/p><\/li><li style=\"list-style:none !important\"><strong>Great Podcast<\/strong><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/erictrules.com\/wp-content\/plugins\/simple-podcast-press\/icons\/rating_stars\/5star.png\"><div>November 30, 2016 by <b>Tucci1776<\/b> from United States<\/div><p>Really great and entertaining podcast. Hooks you from the first episode.<\/p><\/li><li style=\"list-style:none !important\"><strong>Great Travel Podcast<\/strong><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/erictrules.com\/wp-content\/plugins\/simple-podcast-press\/icons\/rating_stars\/5star.png\"><div>November 30, 2016 by <b>PodcastJunkies.com<\/b> from United States<\/div><p>I'm very impressed with the content in this first episode and can't wait to hear more of Eric's stories.<\/p><\/li><li style=\"list-style:none !important\"><strong>Travel for All!<\/strong><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/erictrules.com\/wp-content\/plugins\/simple-podcast-press\/icons\/rating_stars\/5star.png\"><div>November 30, 2016 by <b>deanesullivan18<\/b> from United States<\/div><p>I am thrilled that I came upon this podcast. Trules has a wonderful quality for engaging his listeners, and will transcend you from your living room couches to vast corners of the world. The podcast's professional quality, coupled with Trules' creativity and natural skill for storytelling, will keep you coming back for more. It's a must - can't wait for more!<\/p><\/li><li style=\"list-style:none !important\"><strong>Impressive and Entertaining!<\/strong><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/erictrules.com\/wp-content\/plugins\/simple-podcast-press\/icons\/rating_stars\/5star.png\"><div>November 29, 2016 by <b>SpeedwayCJ<\/b> from United States<\/div><p>Based on the promo episode of this show, I've subscribed and am definitely looking forward to more! This podcast is extremely well-produced, with audio that excites and amuses. I love the concept of unique, personal and engaging travel stories from the host's real-life experiences, combined with audio scapes that bring listeners directly into the story. I have a feeling this show will be one to keep an eye on, as it holds a great deal of promise for future success. Can't wait to hear the many places Eric Trules will take us!<\/p><\/li><li style=\"list-style:none !important\"><strong>Amazing voice amazing podcast!!!<\/strong><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/erictrules.com\/wp-content\/plugins\/simple-podcast-press\/icons\/rating_stars\/5star.png\"><div>October 4, 2024 by <b>Tangana Wellness<\/b> from United States<\/div><p>Ooooookaeeeeeeeeey! Amazing podcast. It\u2019s so great to hear travel stories and really unique histoires from Eric Trules life.<\/p><\/li><\/ul><\/div><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone wp-image-3891\" src=\"https:\/\/erictrules.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/Trules.Matt-Dartnell.2-300x185.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"400\" height=\"246\" srcset=\"http:\/\/erictrules.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/Trules.Matt-Dartnell.2-300x185.jpg 300w, http:\/\/erictrules.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/Trules.Matt-Dartnell.2.jpg 640w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 400px) 100vw, 400px\" \/><\/p>\n<h2><strong>Welcome to Trules&#8217; Live Interview with Matt Dartnell at the Outlier Podcast Festival<\/strong><\/h2>\n<h2><span style=\"color: #ff0000;\"><strong>Listen Now<\/strong><\/span><\/h2>\n<div class=\"player_container player-3887\" ><div class=\"spp_player_textabove\"><b> <\/b><\/div><div id=\"sm2-3887\" class=\"sm2-3887 playercontent sm2-bar-ui compact flat full-width full-width-player\"><div class=\"bd sm2-main-controls\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"sm2-inline-element sm2-button-element\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"sm2-button-bd\" style=\"background: transparent url(http:\/\/erictrules.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/12\/podcast_channel_artwork-150x150.png) repeat scroll 0% 0% \/ cover ;\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div id=\"spp-player-background\"> <\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<a href=\"#play\" class=\"sm2-inline-button play-pause\"><\/a>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"loader\" style=\"display:none;\"><\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"eq\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<span class=\"bar bar-1\"><\/span>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<span class=\"bar bar-2\"><\/span>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<span class=\"bar bar-3\"><\/span>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<span class=\"bar bar-4\"><\/span>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div><div class=\"sm2-inline-element sm2-inline-status progressbar\">\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"sm2-button-bd\" style=\"\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"playerpitch0\" style=\"display:none;\">0.75x<\/div>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"playerpitch1\">1x<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"playerpitch2\" style=\"display:none;\">1.25x<\/div>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"playerpitch3\" style=\"display:none;\">1.5x<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"playerpitch4\" style=\"display:none;\">2x<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"sm2-button-bd\" style=\"\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"secrewind\"><\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"sm2-playlist\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"sm2-playlist-target\"><\/div>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"sm2-progress\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"sm2-progress-bd\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"sm2-progress-track\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"sm2-progress-bar1\" style=\"display:none;\"><\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"sm2-progress-bar\"><\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"sm2-progress-ball\"><div class=\"icon-overlay\"><\/div><\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"sm2-row timestamp timetext\" style=\"display:none;\"><div class=\"sm2-inline-time timestamp\">0:00<\/div><div class=\"sm2-inline-duration timestamp\">...<\/div><\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"sm2-inline-element sm2-button-element sm2-volume\" style=\"0\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t  <div class=\"sm2-button-bd\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<span class=\"sm2-inline-button sm2-volume-control volume-shade\"><\/span>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<a href=\"#volume\" class=\"sm2-inline-button sm2-volume-control\" style=\"\"><\/a>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t  <\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t <\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"bd sm2-playlist-drawer sm2-element\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"sm2-playlist-wrapper\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<ul class=\"sm2-playlist-bd\"><li><a href=\"http:\/\/traffic.libsyn.com\/etravelswithetrules\/ET043-Bonus-Interview-with-Outlier-Matt-Dartnell.mp3\">Bonus: Interview with Outlier, Matt Dartnell \u2013 Episode 43<\/a><\/li><\/ul>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div><\/div>\n<h3><span style=\"color: #008000;\"><strong>Belated Happy Thanksgiving wishes along with early Holiday Greetings&#8230;.<\/strong><\/span><\/h3>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>Whether or not you&#8217;re American, I think it&#8217;s always a good idea to be grateful, so thanks for tuning into this 2nd Bonus Episode between Seasons 2 and 3. Because while I\u2019m still looking for funding for the 3<sup>rd<\/sup> season, I will be releasing shows once a month in the mean time \u2013 to keep up with your podcast curiosity and devotion.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone wp-image-3897\" src=\"https:\/\/erictrules.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/turkey-day.2012-300x225.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"400\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"http:\/\/erictrules.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/turkey-day.2012-300x225.jpg 300w, http:\/\/erictrules.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/turkey-day.2012-768x576.jpg 768w, http:\/\/erictrules.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/turkey-day.2012-510x382.jpg 510w, http:\/\/erictrules.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/turkey-day.2012.jpg 960w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 400px) 100vw, 400px\" \/><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>Today\u2019s episode is an interview I did with Matt Dartnell,\u00a0<\/strong><strong>an LA based literary manager with an immense love for podcasts, horror movies, and travel. <\/strong><strong>I met Matt at the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/groups\/240175866544416\/\">Outlier Podcast Festival<\/a> in Los Angeles which was organized by <a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/ever.gonzalez\">Ever Gonzalez<\/a> and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/arielle.niss\">Arielle Nissenblatt<\/a>, founder of the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/earbudspodcastcollective\/\">Earbuds Podcast Collective<\/a>. It was held at <a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/villageworkspaces\/\">Village Workspaces<\/a> in West LA in October, 2018, and it had in attendance, the diverse and usual suspects of podcasters, producers, developers, and podcast enthusiasts.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>I was leaning against a brightly-windowed wall, noshing on complimentary cashews, when I noticed a tall, bearded man standing next to me wearing a bright orange, Skylight Bookstore t-shirt. Now the Skylight is one of the few remaining independent bookstores still standing in LA, and it\u2019s right next to the Los Feliz movie theater in Silver Lake. I\u2019m a regular. \u201cHey man, are you a fan of the Skylight?\u201d \u201cYeah, dude, I am. What\u2019s your name?\u201d<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>And so began\u2026 <em>another<\/em>\u2026 podcast networking friendship between 2\u2026 outliers&#8230; one an Ex-Mormon, one an ex-clown (that is, if you can ever <em>stop<\/em> being a Mormon or a clown!). And a<\/strong><strong>lthough we had a couple of generations between us, it turns out that Matt and I had a lot of things in common: politics, podcasting, reading books, history, and the love of travel. So\u2026 I took the opportunity to<em> spontaneously<\/em> invite Matt into the Simplecast recording studio, right onsite at Village Workspaces, and we were helped out by audio engineer,<a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/jax.cantrell\"> Jackson Cantrell<\/a>, who is getting ready to host his own podcast named \u201c58 k\u201d about homelessness in Los Angeles.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<h3><strong>\u00a0<\/strong><strong>Please listen to Episode 43 by clicking the\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/erictrules.com\/episode17\">ARROW<\/a>\u00a0at the top of thi<\/strong><strong>s post \u2013 right below \u201c<span style=\"color: #ff0000;\">Listen Now<\/span>\u201d.<\/strong><\/h3>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<h3><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-3914\" src=\"https:\/\/erictrules.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/ET043-Bonus-Interview-with-Outlier-Matt-Dartnell-Square-300x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"http:\/\/erictrules.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/ET043-Bonus-Interview-with-Outlier-Matt-Dartnell-Square-300x300.jpg 300w, http:\/\/erictrules.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/ET043-Bonus-Interview-with-Outlier-Matt-Dartnell-Square-150x150.jpg 150w, http:\/\/erictrules.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/ET043-Bonus-Interview-with-Outlier-Matt-Dartnell-Square-768x768.jpg 768w, http:\/\/erictrules.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/ET043-Bonus-Interview-with-Outlier-Matt-Dartnell-Square-1024x1024.jpg 1024w, http:\/\/erictrules.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/ET043-Bonus-Interview-with-Outlier-Matt-Dartnell-Square-1080x1080.jpg 1080w, http:\/\/erictrules.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/ET043-Bonus-Interview-with-Outlier-Matt-Dartnell-Square.jpg 1400w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/h3>\n<h3><\/h3>\n<h3><strong>What We Covered:<\/strong><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li><a class=\"spp-timestamp\">00.00<\/a>\u00a0\u2013 Weekly Intro with Theme Music by Amanda Yamate<\/li>\n<li><a class=\"spp-timestamp\"><span>00:26<\/span> &#8211;\u00a0<\/a>Introduction of Episode<\/li>\n<li><a class=\"spp-timestamp\"><span>05:03<\/span><\/a>\u00a0\u2013\u00a0Introduction of Matt Dartnell, Live from the Outlier Podcast Festival, W. Los Angeles, 2018<\/li>\n<li><a class=\"spp-timestamp\"><span>07:11<\/span><\/a>\u00a0\u2013 Matt talks about looking for an older generation&#8217;s perspective on the &#8220;decline of civilization&#8221;<\/li>\n<li><a class=\"spp-timestamp\"><span>11:45<\/span><\/a>\u00a0\u2013 They talk about the cultural &#8220;battle&#8221; between privileged white men and a more inclusive, diversified America<\/li>\n<li><a class=\"spp-timestamp\"><span>13:20<\/span><\/a>\u00a0\u2013 Matt talks about his wife&#8217;s and his backpacking trip through Europe and being hyper-sensitive to the &#8220;Ugly American&#8221; syndrome<\/li>\n<li><a class=\"spp-timestamp\"><span>15:36<\/span><\/a>\u00a0\u2013 Matt comments on the view of Osama Bin Laden being seen as a sympathetic &#8220;David&#8221; in the Muslim world<\/li>\n<li><a class=\"spp-timestamp\"><span>18:26<\/span><\/a>\u00a0\u2013 Trules talks about how the &#8220;economics&#8221; of a country effect the way the natives treat their visitors<\/li>\n<li><a class=\"spp-timestamp\"><span>20:10<\/span><\/a>\u00a0\u2013 Matt on growing up Mormon and responding to his friends making Mormon &#8220;missions&#8221;<\/li>\n<li><a class=\"spp-timestamp\"><span>25:52<\/span><\/a>\u00a0\u2013 Matt tells the story of his wife losing all ID in Wales, and how having to improvise to solve the problem became the favorite part of their trip<\/li>\n<li><a class=\"spp-timestamp\"><span>29:03<\/span><\/a>\u00a0\u2013 Matt asks Trules about a significant moment in his travels where he had to improvise, and Trules tells the story of the<a href=\"https:\/\/erictrules.com\/episode11\"> &#8220;Iron Horse and the Bucket Brigade&#8221;<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a class=\"spp-timestamp\"><span>32:01<\/span><\/a>\u00a0\u2013 Trules talks about the &#8220;responsibility&#8221; of passing on things from his own experience and life &#8211; like his teaching a course on Bob Dylan<\/li>\n<li><a class=\"spp-timestamp\"><span>35:00<\/span><\/a>\u00a0\u2013 Matt talks about his &#8220;practical&#8221; childhood\u00a0 &#8211; more &#8220;changing the oil&#8221; as opposed to being exposed to many &#8220;cultural objects&#8221;<\/li>\n<li><a class=\"spp-timestamp\"><span>37:35<\/span><\/a>\u00a0\u2013 Trules congratulates and welcomes Matt to the &#8220;world of story&#8221;<\/li>\n<li><a class=\"spp-timestamp\">38.15<\/a>\u00a0\u2013 Matt thinks the horror and sci-fi film genres are great metaphors for what&#8217;s happening in today&#8217;s world. eg. &#8220;Invasion of the Body Snatchers&#8221;<\/li>\n<li><a class=\"spp-timestamp\"><span>40:18<\/span><\/a>\u00a0\u2013 Trules concurs &#8211; talking about the power of stories and his lifelong attempt &#8220;to change the world 1 story at a time&#8221;<\/li>\n<li><a class=\"spp-timestamp\"><span>42:36<\/span><\/a>\u00a0\u2013 Matt talks about his and his wife&#8217;s upcoming Christmas trip, looking for the West Coast&#8217;s &#8220;best burger joints&#8221;<\/li>\n<li><a class=\"spp-timestamp\"><span>45:35<\/span><\/a>\u00a0\u2013 Trules and Matt improvise the &#8220;Trules Travel Quiz&#8221;<\/li>\n<li><a class=\"spp-timestamp\"><span>51:35<\/span><\/a>\u00a0\u2013 Trules wraps up, thanks Matt, and closes the show with his customary &#8220;Happy Trails&#8221;<\/li>\n<li><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<div id=\"attachment_3906\" style=\"width: 410px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-3906\" class=\"wp-image-3906\" src=\"https:\/\/erictrules.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/MP.eric_.wati_-300x225.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"400\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"http:\/\/erictrules.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/MP.eric_.wati_-300x225.jpg 300w, http:\/\/erictrules.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/MP.eric_.wati_.jpg 434w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 400px) 100vw, 400px\" \/><p id=\"caption-attachment-3906\" class=\"wp-caption-text\"><em>Machu Picchu<\/em><\/p><\/div>\n<h3><\/h3>\n<h3><strong>To catch up with all 43 previous episodes from Seasons 1 and 2 of\u00a0the show, please go to the Library on my home page <a href=\"http:\/\/ https:\/\/erictrules.com\/podcast\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" data-cke-saved-href=\"http:\/\/ https:\/\/erictrules.com\/podcast\"><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">HERE<\/span><\/a>.<\/strong><\/h3>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>There you can listen to all the previous travelogues from places like Deadwood, South Dakota, Chefchaouen, Morocco, the Sinai Desert in Egypt, Kerala, Indja, a cremation ceremony in Bali with Susan Sarandon &amp; Tim Robbins\u2026.\u00a0 and many more. You can also hear all the Behind the Scenes interviews with folks like Bob Marley expert, Roger Steffens, podcast angel, Kate Erickson, explorer-adventuer, Jim Dorsey, and lots of other interesting travelers.\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>You can also leave your comments at the bottom of any the show notes page, and subscribe and review the podcast on <a href=\"https:\/\/erictrules.com\/itunes\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" data-cke-saved-href=\"https:\/\/erictrules.com\/itunes\">Apple Podcasts<\/a>. Great\u00a0reviews really help the podcast&#8217;s rankngs, and so far we have 100% 5 star reviews!. Thanks again.<\/strong><\/p>\n<h3><\/h3>\n<h3><strong>And some more good news: \u201ce-travels with e. trules\u201d spent another week as #1 in Apple Podcast\u2019s &#8211; Travel category! Again, a big\u00a0<span style=\"color: #993366;\"><em>thank you<\/em><\/span> for all your listening support.<\/strong><\/h3>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/erictrules.com\/podcast\" data-cke-saved-href=\"https:\/\/erictrules.com\/podcast\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/gallery.mailchimp.com\/e4c710bf219f56fba7681583f\/images\/4ba9d3c4-5939-46f3-9537-ab204df24797.jpg\" width=\"500\" height=\"349\" data-file-id=\"1240393\" data-cke-saved-src=\"https:\/\/gallery.mailchimp.com\/e4c710bf219f56fba7681583f\/images\/4ba9d3c4-5939-46f3-9537-ab204df24797.jpg\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<h1><\/h1>\n<h1><strong>Tweetables<\/strong><\/h1>\n<div class=\"tm-tweet-clear\">\n<div class=\"tm-tweet-clear\">\n<p>\u00a0<strong><\/p>\n<div class='tm-tweet-clear'><\/div>\n<div class='tm-click-to-tweet'>\n<div class='tm-ctt-text'><a href='https:\/\/twitter.com\/share?text=Matt+Dartnell%3A+I+fell+into+a+serious+discussion+hole...+and+here+we+are.&#038;via=etrules&#038;related=etrules&#038;url=http:\/\/erictrules.com\/bonus-interview-with-outlier-matt-dartnell-episode-43\/' target='_blank'>Matt Dartnell: I fell into a serious discussion hole&#8230; 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